Euclid time and Debriefing – D30

Once again, after lunch we worked on the first three Euclid’s propositions individually. I started practicing the proposition four, but then decided to practice a little more the first three. Later, Alejo and I practiced the demonstrations of these with each other and received feedback. I think I know how to do them very well by now.

As you may know, today was a short day so after Euclid, we debriefed. It was supposed to start at 2:30 p.m. but some were late, which made us talk about commitment issues that lead to other important subjects as well. One thing I didn’t like was Bert’s attitude toward me, because at first the only ones at the circle were Chacho, Mabe, Alejo, Bert, and I, so Alejo and I were talking when Bert asked something to Mabe and demanded we paid her attention, when it seemed that they were only talking to each other. I made the claim that every time, except for the morning meeting, we wait for everyone to start, but he responded me in a very impolite and inconsistent way, even ignoring me. I didn’t pay to much attention to him, for my conviction I was standing for what we all agreed was correct and I thought he was only having a rough time making everyone committed with the MPC. Nevertheless, I despise those types of attitudes and just made me remember how people respond to different situations.

After some 6 or 7 minutes, everyone was at the circle so we started talking about commitment issues and some proposed that we should let everyone in if they were late, even though they could only participate as listeners in the morning meeting. Alejo and I opposed to this idea entirely, contrary to what almost everybody wanted. I don’t think of it as a good idea, because it gives the wrong incentives to not care if one is late. I think it should be a personal commitment if you really care to be at the MPC, and also a matter of respect to your classmates. What surprised me a lot was to hear some voices like Lucía, Franz, Majo, and the Javieres, defending this idea and talking about commitment when one can see they are the least committed to the MPC, or at least of arriving on time. We had a long time discussing this and although I stood to my position, everyone except Alejo agreed on the idea, so I made it very clear that I didn’t thought this was the solution and that didn’t agreed on it, but if everybody else wanted to try it, so be it. The other subject was the silent room, which Alejo proposed to eliminate because it didn’t worked. I supported that motion, and as a “surprise”, almost everyone opposed to it. We “won” the argument by saying that it was the same thing as allowing late arrivals, because it’s the same principle that applies. The principle that we talked before was the flexibility with the rules and remaining open to evolve and change them. Apparently, the ones that were opposed and especially Javier P. didn’t understand their “argument, principle” very well or at all, because they were not consistent on applying it on all cases. So, this is how our day ended, but don’t get me wrong, it was hilarious to discuss all of these.